I am embarrassed to even say I live near this course. I am even more embarrassed I played here last week. For my money I should have played Chester — at least they give a darn about their facility. For the amount of money they spent on fixing/redesigning the front 9 you would have thought someone, hell anyone, would have taken their heads out of you know where and at least maintained the bloody place.
OK Rant over. This is the skinny.
Front 9 greens are OK. A little on the slow side and expect some moderate rolls/release for golf shots. Fairways also on this front 9 are respectable. Rough is cut almost the same height as the fairways so non issue. Bunkers are sandy.
Now the back 9. What the hell is wrong with greens 10,11, and 12? 10 is a disaster with patches on 2 sides of the green, with loads of dead or dying grass in the middle of the green. I mean put a bloody temporary hole on 10 and let the bloody thing heal itself. Hole 11, Superintendent sharpen your blades. Dull blades make the putting surface on these greens bumpy and that combined with the afternoon light makes for some really crazy bounces. Also quite a few bald patches on this green make for an interesting trip to the hole. Balls as you can surmise DO NOT ROLL true. And 12 is healing but as I said before sharpen those blades. It seems the disease that hit 12 made its way backwards to 11 then 10. Like I heard an American Golf District manager say at another golf course, “customers want fast greens. That means verticut and sand every week. And keep doing it until you get the speed right.” At least these guys, even though some folks characterize American Golf as the Evil Empire, put their money where their mouth is. For Alondra my advice City Council seek other management. It’s a dog track in a place where golf is scarce. I can count the number of golf courses in the area on my hands alone. And with the South Bay so built up, this place drips of hungry consumers of golf. The greens at the Lakes are better than they are here — literally night and day. $22.75 to walk here versus $15.00 to head over the Lakes and play 9 in under an hour — pretty tempting in my book. Even Victoria is looking good now. Hell anything looks better than what I subjected myself to that day.
Sometimes I just bite and bullet and head to another course with Alondra just around the corner from me. It’s a shame really. I mean you could seriously make this place one of the showcase courses in the South Bay. Case in point Skylinks in Long Beach it was an OK course with substandard greens, now after the remodel they market it as a destination golf location and charge accordingly.
Pace of play (twilight) was a sizzling 3 hours. This is a flat course. It has some character that is lost when you have to putt on some of the worse greens I have seen. The greens remind me of Los Amigos before the management change. The guy just didn’t care. And it shows when you have to fix divot after divot or rake somebody elses mess in a bunker because they just didn’t bother.
Truthfully it’s partly the patron’s fault as well. The folks that play here really don’t take care of the facility themselves. Golfers are the custodians of the golf course they play — at least that was how I was taught when playing a golf course. I can’t tell you how many divots I had to fix on these greens and I know for certain they are not all done by my lonely ball. All that damage that goes unfixed means the Superintendent has to double his efforts to fix your handiwork. On the other hand, the Superintendent needs to make sure his staff is doing the job right the first time. I mean at least fix the darn lawn mower, sharpen a few blades and make sure the cut is even. You do your part and we will instinctively do ours.
It’s the case of the chicken and the egg. Each party is equally guilty and neither has the courage to step up and stop the madness.
You get more challenge playing the par 3 course at Alondra instead and better value. At least there the greens are all spongy so there is some consistency there but they are narrow and small — in other words some challenge. On the big course you’re given some bad greens, an OK fairway and some OK rough — once again nothing special.
Bottomline, will I play here again? Only if you put a gun to my head. Or in fact I need to punish myself further.
What’s the big deal about this GK App?The biggest reason is this app allows you to consume all the most important information on Greenskeeper.org about golf courses much quicker and more conveniently. Many other reasons why the app will be of value to current and new Greenskeeper members…here are the highlights I mentioned in the Newsletter.
Newsfeed– all the information you find valuable on Greenskeeper.org streamed perfectly on your phone making it much easier to consume and engage with.
Content– take all the content on Greenskeeper.org (40,000+ reviews, 20,000+ photos, maintenance alerts, etc) and have it instantly available on your phone.
Communication– be able to message your golfing friends easily, use highly customizable push notifications, create a custom news feed, share photos, likes and comments. It’s totally loaded with with social networking features – this is a fun app.
Specials– its going to be very easy for you to find amazing deals and redeem them directly with golf courses right from your phone.
Golf Courses– golf course pages packed with information and organized.
Almost like a Travel Advisor for golf. Is that genius or what? You will have to decide for yourself.
It’s coming! The Greenskeeper.org Mobile App for the iPhone also known as the GK Mobile App is coming!!! Over the next few weeks I will be posting additional screen shots of this really innovative tool for NICHE Social Media, for Golf, and for Golf Courses.
Be the first business or enterprise to take advantage of what we think will be the next big thing for Social Media and the Golf Industry. Think of it, NICHE Social Media marketing targeting a specific audience in a specific region. Stand above the noise of current social media platforms. You can be as aggressive as necessary to make sure you are front and center of your core audience. By leveraging Greenskeeper.org membership of over 65,000 registered members, an Opt-in newsletter base of 15,000, over 40,000 HONEST and informative golf course reviews and a solid reputation in the golf course industry for over 10 years you can build your business the old fashioned way, one repeat customer at a time with updated techniques through the GK Mobile App that will carry your business to the next level and beyond.
Hey Golf Industry, the GK Mobile App is coming. Be ready for it!
FREE is a Wonderful four letter word. Golf is another wonderful four letter word.
I almost never associate GOLF with WORK. That is a four letter word I abhor.
Now FREE GOLF is something I can sink my teeth into. And FREE GOLF on your birthday is a great combination. One place I have found in all my internet meanderings is Greenskeeper.org. And the folks at Greenskeeper keep a current list of all those golf courses that celebrate your birthday with you by paying you the greatest compliment — FREE GOLF on your Birthday.
Check it out the next time your birthday comes around. You won’t be disappointed. In fact you may save a dollar or three in the process.
I am hasty. I have never been known to sit quietly and wait. So with that in mind…. allow me to introduce the newest thing since sliced bread and Instagram heck even WordPress — The GK App by Greenskeeper.org.
I am a golfer and I play a lot of golf and often wonder where I can play — sometimes at a moment’s notice. Where to play? That’s always been the million dollar question. Well this GK App will help you navigate the trenches and decide where to play. Course conditions, photos, even HONEST golf course reviews of your favorite courses will be available all at the touch of a finger.
Get the lowdown on where to play. What to expect (i.e. Pace of Play and course conditions.) How to contact the course. Find out if they have any specials to save you some of that hard earned cash. Literally everything you could ever want from an app but never had.
Now other apps tout playing with foursomes and finding groups to play with but personally I find it like blind dates. I don’t like them. You get a mixed bag — some good; some bad. The beauty and the genius here is this app helps you make up your mind WHERE to play. Your phone won’t die on you halfway through the round like some of these score trackers. In fact put your phone away while you play so you can concentrate on your round. Save that phone battery for uploading photos or taking photos during your round and upload them through the GK App.
I personally can’t wait to show you guys…. but for now you will just have to take my word for it.
5 tips to “Know Before You Go” Golf Everyone has their top 10 list. I say to heck with that. I have 5 tips you will need when playing golf at any golf course of your choosing.
1. Consult Greenskeeper.org for up to date golf course information. This database is by far the most exhaustive and up-to-date listing of current golf conditions anywhere. I have looked at @golfadvisor. I have looked at @yelp. I even looked at @tripadvisor. None of these websites have the HONEST low down on any course compared to @Greenskeeperorg. They don’t even hold a candle to GK. So when you’re traveling or playing locally consult Greenskeeper.org for golf course conditions for California, the Pacific NW (Oregon, Washington), Texas, Utah, Nevada, Arizona and Florida. You won’t be disappointed.
Oh yes, remember GK also has a mobile page for you folks. Consider using http://greenskeeper.org/mobile/Get conditions on-the-go complete with golf course reviews.
2. Bring your golf clubs. Don’t laugh. Check to see your putter is in your bag and all other clubs you think you may need. You may laugh but when was the last time you took out your putter to practice and forgot to return it. I can see you picturing it leaning against your home office wall next to a bunch of balls scattered around your practice putting cup.
3. Bring your golf shoes. I like to keep them in my golf bag but others don’t. Make sure you have them handy and with you when you head out otherwise playing in loafers can be quite interesting.
4. Bring enough supplies. Water, balls, tees. Save yourself some coin and spend it there at the golf course buying a hot dog from some hot/handsome cartgirl/guy.
5. Check the weather and wear the appropriate clothing. Been caught too many times where I failed to dress for the weather. If it’s the extreme of either hot/cold it can be pretty daunting to play. Didn’t bring what you need, well get ready to spend a little coin at the golf shop prior to playing you will thank yourself for it. Wearing the appropriate clothing will not only help you play better golf but will ultimately save yourself from the pain of major recovery. I know it from personal experience.
On a footnote, if it’s sunny drive or walk along the shaded areas. Save your strength. If it’s wet figure a way to keep your gear (particularly your gloves and grips) dry. I use ziplock bags personally with rubber bands for the shafts and a dry towel hung under my umbrella.
I have known JohnnyGK the founder of Greenskeeper.org for about nine (9) years. And in all this time his tag line, “Know Before You Go” was on every piece of propaganda this cat could generate. It was on all his adverts, his business cards, even the little postcards he would hand out to perspective members.
Fast forward nine years to the present and come to find out @golfadvisor a division of GolfNow (aka the Evil Empire) is using his intellectual property in several of their voice adverts AND commercials on the Golf Channel. Well it took us all aback.
First they know who he is and what Greenskeeper.org represents — an adversary. Second in what I can only assume is a negligent move on their part decided to use that phrase anyways for their own personal gain. Clearly from my point of view, a definite dick move.
Now let’s see how they react to the court of public opinion. All I can say is that someone is going to get paid and someone is going to lose.
Greenskeeper.org with the help of one staffer (Kona) and the founder JohnnyGK himself, we developed a pretty exhaustive list of FREE Birthday Golf.
Needless to say I am still pretty proud of the things I accomplished there.
So if you ever wanted to play a golf course with some of your friends and celebrate your birthday at the same time consider consulting perhaps one of the most up-to-date listings for FREE Birthday Golf I know about — The GK Birthday Golf List — is the place to get informed.
And for the record, GK is a pretty good resource for aeration and maintenance alerts at your local golf courses. So play informed with GK.
And if you do, be sure to tell your friends you heard about it from me.